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Western Caribbean disturbance moving over the Yucatan
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 02:01 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 04, 2008 +1
Heavy thunderstorm activity in association with a broad area of low pressure over the Western Caribbean remains disorganized today. Visible satellite loops show a modest area of heavy thunderstorms, with no sign of organization or a surface circulation. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed no signs of a surface circulation, either. Wind shear is moderate, in the 10-15 knot range.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of the Western Caribbean. Image credit: NOAA.

The disturbance is drifting westward, and should move over northern Guatemala, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula today before it can develop into a tropical depression. These areas can expect heavy rains of 2-4 inches today through Sunday from the disturbance. NHC is currently giving it a low (<20% chance) of developing into a tropical depression.

Elsewhere in the tropics, the NOGAPS model is forecasting the possible formation of a tropical depression off the coast of Nicaragua on Thursday, while the GFS model thinks something might develop off the coast of Africa Thursday. It's a little late to be getting an African storms developing, so I doubt the GFS forecast. However, we'll need to watch the Western Caribbean over the coming week.

Links to follow
Wundermap for the Western Caribbean


Hurricane Ike relief efforts
When a major hurricane hits, relief efforts are always confused and don't reach many areas with great needs. Thus, a group of wunderground bloggers mobilized the day after Ike hit to help out. Their goal was to provide immediate help where traditional aid efforts were coming short, with a focus on providing equipment for people with disabilities and a full spectrum of relief supplies to smaller communities often neglected. Traditional, professional relief efforts are weighed down by bureaucracy and cannot respond as nimbly as smaller, grass-roots relief efforts can. I believe our dollars have been well-spent by the relief effort organized by our own Patrap, Presslord, and Stormjunkie, under the banner of Portlight Strategies, Inc. I encourage you to donate to the cause, or the traditional charity organization of your choice.

Here's a breakdown of how much money has been donated, and how much spent. Figures are rounded to the nearest $100. More details can be found on StormJunkie's blog:

Total money donated: $31,200 (about 400 donors)
Total money spent so far: $10,350
Total money in the portlight.org checking account: $21,000
--$9,000 in escrow for legal defense
--$12,000 available for immediate relief operations
Total money in the original Paypal account set up by Patrap: $1000
Total money in the new Paypal account set up by Presslord: $250

Here's how the $10350 has been spent:

WalMart - $2000 - supplies
Costco - $1000 - supplies
Patrick Pearson (Patrap) - $1000 (fuel, rental costs for a truck)
Truck from Charleston - $1500 - fuel
Florida supply truck - $2100 - escort, credentialing, fuel, vehicle repair, lodging
Crew food,lodging, transport home - $1000
Truck rental, gas for truck from Atlanta - $1750

The biggest coup for the effort came when portlight arranged to get about $150,000 worth of medical equipment donated to the cause. Rob Ingham (AKA Rainman32) and Roger Knight (AKA NLimbo) took a rented truck to Atlanta, grabbed the gear, and delivered it to Houston. In the shipment:

Four Gaylord boxes medical supplies
-Soft casts
-various catheter kits
-catheter bags
-oxygen tubing kits
-other misc. medical supplies
13 hospital bed mattresses and pressure pads
2 Gaylord boxes of sanitized walkers (20 per box)
4 Gaylord boxes of unsanitized walkers (20 per box)
2 pallets with two electric wheelchairs each (4)
100 pairs of crutches
30 bedside commodes sanitized
6 gerry chairs

Jeff Masters
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651. Orcasystems 04:43 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting NeverPanic:
Your on




I have your nick in Cancun
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652. IMA 04:45 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
649. NeverPanicHave a great trip! You changed your pic?

I'm so out of touch, have been in main so very little ever since Ike hit - feel so out-of-it, need a brain transplant lol
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653. Orcasystems 04:45 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Your nick beat you to cancun
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654. Jedkins01 04:46 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting IMA:
LOL @ steak and frogs -- hubby asked why I didn't bring steak home (I was at the neighbor's house when the steer appeared) because he knew I had the guns out -- I told him I only had the .38 on me and really didn't know if a .357 would take out a steer anyway - anyone know?? I think in TX that possession is 9/10 of the law so next time that steer is on neighbor's property it's mine, right zoo? I have SPOA for neighbor's affairs! LOL




my .277 can take a steer so I would assume that being a yes, but I think using a pistol on a steer wouldn't be the greates choice lol
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655. IMA 04:48 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Sleep? Maybe whoever explains rain to me can also explain sleep. lol Only going to get worse next week, hubby finally "shippin' out" to Houston - almost a month post-Ike. I said, "They can have 'em!"(Love ya, honey! - he reads here, just doesn't blab like his mouthy wifey ;)
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656. Orcasystems 04:48 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting Jedkins01:




my .277 can take a steer so I would assume that being a yes, but I think using a pistol on a steer wouldn't be the greates choice lol


I have gone wild cow hunting with a .41 it works
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657. IMA 04:50 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
65, 20084. Jedkins01
I am a hell of a shot w/a pistol but don't even know how to load a shotgun, I'd probably put it in backwards lol

Volunteering at the gun club this week so maybe they'll learn me Ha!
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658. IMA 04:51 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Cow hunting?
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659. IMA 04:52 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
653. Orcasystems too cool
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660. Orcasystems 04:54 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting IMA:
Cow hunting?


Many moons ago on the west coast of vancouver Island there used to be a dutch settlement. They had livestock.. when they left.. they left some cows, which ran wild.. there is actually wild cows still there. Its called Estevan point

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661. Jedkins01 04:54 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting IMA:
65, 20084. Jedkins01
I am a hell of a shot w/a pistol but don't even know how to load a shotgun, I'd probably put it in backwards lol

Volunteering at the gun club this week so maybe they'll learn me Ha!



Never been into pistols as much, always been a rifle man lol, I do carry pistols, and train with them though, mainly as a backup in case I cant use the rifle.

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662. Jedkins01 04:55 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Many moons ago on the west coast of vancouver Island there used to be a dutch settlement. They had livestock.. when they left.. they left some cows, which ran wild.. there is actually wild cows still there. Its called Estevan point




who the hell would want to go cow hunting?

LOL seriously I am really laughing right now, a lot!
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663. NeverPanic 04:56 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Thx Orca,
As long as she keeps moving and doesnt stall may get a sunny day in after all.
1 out of 7 aint bad...lol

Got your request earlier and will make sure I check them all out.

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664. IMA 04:56 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
That's wild (no pun intended). See, I love trivia like that.
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665. Orcasystems 04:59 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting NeverPanic:
Thx Orca,
As long as she keeps moving and doesnt stall may get a sunny day in after all.
1 out of 7 aint bad...lol

Got your request earlier and will make sure I check them all out.


Thanks.. wife is looking forward to what you find.. she also wants to know more about where you are staying, when you get back
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666. IMA 04:59 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
I laughed out loud at it, too. Let me tell ya, one day, the bull from across the creek was literally outside my front door. I was runnin' out at full speed but luckily there are 4 steps down to our door and he'd not taken them. If I'd have had a shot gun, he'd have been in my freezer the next day. I have 5 dogs and I am sick of the neighbor not taking care of his fences. If someone's dogs get on his property, he doesn't try to catch them and return them, he immediately shoots and kills them. I would do the same to his bull. I've saved I don't know how many of his goats that have gotten caught in his poorly maintained fences. I'm not going to lose my life to a freakin' bull (and want steaks) LOL
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667. IMA 05:01 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Oh,no. I've ranted 2 nights in a row. LOL Long story with the guy across the creek and with me and bulls LOL
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668. Orcasystems 05:01 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting Jedkins01:



who the hell would want to go cow hunting?

LOL seriously I am really laughing right now, a lot!


Simple.. I was a commercial fisherman, a longtime ago. When the weather got bad, we ran into the lee side of Estevan pt, which has an anchorage. We could be there for days. So we would take the pistols and go hunting. You do not need a tag to shot wild cows.. they are not regulated..hell very few people know they are even there.. Beef is Beef :)
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669. IMA 05:03 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Can you taste a difference? May seem like a stupid question but you can with some other wild game. I loved wild boar! I have had several different types of "game" and there was little I didn't like. I don't hunt, but I eat! lol Not often a popular view with a lot of my animal rescue friends - I just have to calmly explain that I pick my battles - there's a difference between animal rescue and animal welfare and you can't fight 'em all!
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670. Jedkins01 05:04 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Simple.. I was a commercial fisherman, a longtime ago. When the weather got bad, we ran into the lee side of Estevan pt, which has an anchorage. We could be there for days. So we would take the pistols and go hunting. You do not need a tag to shot wild cows.. they are not regulated..hell very few people know they are even there.. Beef is Beef :)




makes sense enough to me... lol


It sounded absolutely ridiculous, but now that you explained your reason, makes more sense :)
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671. IMA 05:06 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
...and I can see wanting to go cow hunting, by the way. LOL I think I'm dyin' to shoot something now that I've taken up the hobby. 4 young raccoons were lucky they didn't attack the cat tonight! LOL I could never have shot them, so cute! They did scare the hell outta me, though! Thought the steer was comin' back for me.

Actually, very honestly, that steer this week got me thinking again about all the livestock affected by Ike & Gustav, got me very melancholy :(
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672. Orcasystems 05:06 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting IMA:
Can you taste a difference? May seem like a stupid question but you can with some other wild game. I loved wild boar! I have had several different types of "game" and there was little I didn't like. I don't hunt, but I eat! lol Not often a popular view with a lot of my animal rescue friends - I just have to calmly explain that I pick my battles - there's a difference between animal rescue and animal welfare and you can't fight 'em all!


Not exactly grain feed and fat... more like beefalo, leaner then regular
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673. Orcasystems 05:07 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting Jedkins01:




makes sense enough to me... lol


It sounded absolutely ridiculous, but now that you explained your reason, makes more sense :)


See, I just seem nuts.. that doesn't mean I am :)
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674. NeverPanic 05:07 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Tell the she'll get that and more, pics included.
Off to bed, gotta be up in about 5 hrs.
Night all.
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675. Orcasystems 05:10 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting NeverPanic:
Tell the she'll get that and more, pics included.
Off to bed, gotta be up in about 5 hrs.
Night all.


Have a great time.. hope it clears up.
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676. Orcasystems 05:11 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Dodgers won

Ok, I am off.. need my sleep.. later all
IMA, try not to shoot anything or anyone tonight :)
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677. IMA 05:11 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Hey, I openly admit & accept -- I lost it 'long time ago
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678. IMA 05:14 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
I didn't even watch, put it on in the 1st and decided it would just be too sad. lol

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679. TampaMishy 05:14 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
I'm just reading right now and Orca I have never heard of wild cows..
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680. IMA 05:14 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
lol! hagn!
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681. BtnTx 05:34 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Wild Cows - Absolutely Amazing. Its info like this that keeps me coming back to this blog! Night All
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682. Melagoo 05:58 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Looks like a possibility for some nice wave production



Wave Maker
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683. Cotillion 07:51 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Morning all.

Laura's finished with us now and is making it to the south of England.

Nothing like rain and a bit of wind. Stronger than the usual, but not much to write home about, thankfully.
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684. Enola 09:14 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
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685. baulas 11:12 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
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686. KBH 11:35 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
things are quiet for now,will that large mass in mid atlantic overcome the shear and develop into something?,..if not a system, looks a whole week of rain
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687. hurricanemaniac123 11:40 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting KBH:
things are quiet for now,will that large mass in mid atlantic overcome the shear and develop into something?,..if not a system, looks a whole week of rain


Just wait till next week. All the models are saying that we'll get a tropical system in that time.
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688. indianrivguy 11:44 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
good morning gang, I hope everyone is well this am!
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689. MisterJohnny 11:59 AM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Good Morning indianrivguy

Army beat Tulane
Navy beat Air Force
690. Autistic2 12:00 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting TampaMishy:
I'm just reading right now and Orca I have never heard of wild cows..


Good Morning All

Wild Cows, Cow Hunting? I once shot a bull on my dads farm, does that count? No you don't want to eat a bull, maybee if you were starving, but surley nnot to just put on the grill!
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691. indianrivguy 12:08 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting MisterJohnny:
Good Morning indianrivguy

Army beat Tulane
Navy beat Air Force


yes ideed.. 6th time in a row.. can't stand them purty fly boys anyway, I even root for Army against them.. lessee, we have you fella's now 4 times in a row right? Your last senior class NEVER tasted victory over Navy.. your next one won't either.. Go Navy BEAT Army... again..

hmmm, I am pleased that the frontal boundary has lifted north and is giving Dade.. read "Joe Robbie stadium" a break for todays game.
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692. dayton 12:13 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
What happened to the weather blog? I seem to have mistakenly come upon a cow / football discussion.
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693. hurricanemaniac123 12:18 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Once it emerges into the BOC, can this disturbance become a depression?
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694. kmanislander 12:19 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Good morning

Quikscat has a well defined surface low at 9N 33W in the midst of that heavy convection. Although it is getting late for a CV system to make it all the way across the surface low is far enough S to have a chance to do just that.

The CIMSS shear map was not available this morning so I am unable to see what conditions aloft are like.

Something to watch over the next 24 hrs to see whether it develops.
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695. kmanislander 12:22 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Off for the morning but will check in later
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696. Autistic2 12:24 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting dayton:
What happened to the weather blog? I seem to have mistakenly come upon a cow / football discussion.


What weather?
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697. IKE 12:31 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting Autistic2:


What weather?


LOL.....

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SUN OCT 5 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A BROAD LOW PRESSURE AREA LOCATED INLAND OVER THE SOUTHERN PART
OF THE YUCATAN PENINSULA IS PRODUCING DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND
THUNDERSTORMS OVER PORTIONS OF GUATEMALA...BELIZE...AND THE
YUCATAN PENINSULA. THIS SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE WESTWARD
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO...AND COULD EMERGE OVER THE SOUTHERN
BAY OF CAMPECHE WHERE SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER BROWN


I think for the US of A the season is 99% over with.
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698. Taper123 12:42 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting IKE:


LOL.....

I think for the US of A the season is 99% over with.


I hope so. Had to live in a tent for a few days, and now in a small travel trailer.

Hired the "IKE Remodeling Company" to install a skylight. Did the job in seconds, even added a bonus one in the deal, but left a huge mess behind.

Hopefully we'll be rebuilt for next season. Amazing the power of these storms 90 miles inland.
699. tkeith 12:51 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
I think for the US of A the season is 99% over with....Ike thats seems like a sound prediction to me. you think were gonna have a colder winter than last year? I'm in NOLA about the same LAT. as you.
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700. Drakoen 12:58 PM GMT on Οκτώβριος 05, 2008    
Quoting kmanislander:
Good morning

Quikscat has a well defined surface low at 9N 33W in the midst of that heavy convection. Although it is getting late for a CV system to make it all the way across the surface low is far enough S to have a chance to do just that.

The CIMSS shear map was not available this morning so I am unable to see what conditions aloft are like.

Something to watch over the next 24 hrs to see whether it develops.


I don't see any well-defined surface low there and this morning's quicksat just showed an area where the winds are converging.

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