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Ana and TD 3 take aim at the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 04:17 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009 +7
Tropical Storm Ana was born this morning, when the remnants of Tropical Depression Two made a comeback and organized into the first tropical storm of the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. Ana is the latest first named storm of the season since Hurricane Andrew got its name on August 17, 1992. The two storms have some similarities, as Andrew formed in the same part of the ocean, and also struggled in its early days with high wind shear and dry air. Let's hope the similarities end there.

Ana is struggling this afternoon. After an modest burst of heavy thunderstorm activity prompted NHC to upgrade Ana to a tropical storm early this morning, Ana has run into strong upper-level winds from the west that are creating high wind shear. This shear was not forecast, and it is not clear how long it will last. The shear has acted to drive dry air into the core of Ana, destroying almost all of Ana's heavy thunderstorms. The low-level center of the storm is now exposed to view, something that often foreshadows the death of a storm. It is possible the shear will destroy Ana, and several models (the GFS and ECMWF) forecast this may be the case. However, the shear forecast calls for shear to drop into the low range, 5 - 10 knots, tonight through Tuesday. If the shear does drop as forecast, Ana should be able to moisten the atmosphere around it sufficiently to protest itself from the dry Saharan air that surrounds it (Figure 1). SSTs are 27°C today, and will increase to 28°C by Sunday. By the time Ana moves into the Bahamas, total ocean heat content rises steeply (Figure 2), and rapid intensification of Ana is possible, if the shear and dry air haven't disrupted the storm. The intensity forecast models, for the most part, predict a steady intensification of Ana to the threshold of hurricane strength five days from now. The HWRF model is on the strong side, predicting a Category 2 hurricane. The GFDL predicts a weak tropical storm five days from now, but that is because the model has Ana passing over the rugged terrain of Hispaniola, something the other models do not predict. In summary, the intensity forecast for Ana has higher than usual uncertainty, and I give equal chances that the storm will be a hurricane--or non-existent--four days from now.


Figure 1. Water vapor image from this morning showing the large area of dry, Saharan air surrounding Ana, and lying to the north of Tropical Depression Three. Image credit: NOAA/SSD

Tropical Depression Three forms, could be Bill later today
QuikSCAT data from this morning and satellite loops revealed that the tropical wave (90L) in the middle Atlantic has finally developed a well developed surface circulation and can be classified as Tropical Depression Three. Recent satellite imagery suggests that TD 3 may already be Tropical Storm Bill. Water vapor imagery (Figure 1) shows that TD 3's center consolidated a few hundred miles south of the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL). Thus, the storm should not be affected by dry air and dust as much as Ana has been. Ana may also act to moisten the atmosphere in front of TD 3, helping protect the storm from the SAL as it edges farther north over the the three days.



Figure 2. Heat content of the ocean, in kJ per square cm. Oceanic heat content steadily increases for Ana and TD 3 as they approach the Lesser Antilles Islands. Oceanic heat content levels of 90 kJ per square cm are frequently associated with rapid intensification of hurricanes. Image credit: University of Miami.

Wind shear is moderate, 15 knots, but is forecast to fall to 10 - 15 knots on days 2 - 5. Sea Surface Temperatures are about 27.5°C, and will remain in the 27.5 - 28°C range the next five days. The combination of low wind shear and sufficiently warm SSTs should allow TD 3 to intensify steadily, and I expect the storm will be at hurricane strength by Wednesday, when it will be near the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. Most of our reliable intensity models strengthen TD 3 into a hurricane by Wednesday. Oceanic heat content (Figure 2) increases sharply just before the islands, so TD 3 could be intensifying rapidly as it moves through or just north of the Lesser Antilles on Thursday. TD 3 consolidated farther south than expected, so the track models calling for a more northerly path were probably incorrect. In particular, the ECMWF model, which had TD 3 turning sharply northwestward and missing the Lesser Antilles Islands, was probably much too far to the north in this morning's 00Z run. TD 3 will probably pass very close to the northern Lesser Antilles islands on Wednesday and Thursday.

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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1351. RitaEvac 09:49 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Bill may take a Gilbert path, and intensity. Jamaica, Yucatan wake up
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1352. stormwatcherCI 09:49 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting weatherblog:


We are definitely not out of the woods.

Anyways, the GOM shouldn't worry about Ana. If it were to head that way, it'll definitely die from passing over Cuba, Haiti, or the DR. The only threat this has it to the islands, the Bahamas, and Florida for now.
Do you mean like Ike or Gustav did ? Sorry, I am being sarcastic.
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1353. StadiumEffect 09:49 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:
If it goes over Cuba/DR its tiny circulation will be done.


Especially if it continues on that WNW track that is forecast. A slight shift south in the track would have it traversing almost the entire length of Hispanola and Cuba. That would certainly mean death for a weak storm with such a small circulation, just as you said. Then again, any small deviation north or south of that would have it over water for the majority of the time. It's something to watch.
1354. Cavin Rawlins 09:50 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Bill is exploding again, likely a moderate TS by morn

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1355. SavannahStorm 09:50 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
What was the question ?


A, B, C, or D?
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1356. jipmg 09:50 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting weatherblog:


We are definitely not out of the woods.

Anyways, the GOM shouldn't worry about Ana. If it were to head that way, it'll definitely die from passing over Cuba, Haiti, or the DR. The only threat this has it to the islands, the Bahamas, and Florida for now.


I think the models expect ana to be a weaker system not gaining much strength from now until it reaches the islands.. which is why they but it on a West track
1357. weatherblog 09:50 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:

You know what you are, I'll give you a hint, Its looks just your avatar!!!


Me? I wasn't talking to you.
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1358. stormpetrol 09:50 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
And with him on here they will gather even faster(with his "Avatar")

LMAO, BTW stormwatcher I have a bad feeling about these 2 storms , I just don't see them going that far north especially at that forward speed.
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1359. stormwatcherCI 09:50 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting SavannahStorm:


A, B, C, or D?
Ok, if you say so. I guess I'll choose all of the above.
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1360. whipster 09:50 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Lifted from Joe Bastardi's blog this afternoon. Enjoy!

SATURDAY 5 PM

RAPID FIRE FEEDBACK TRYING TO REV UP HOME BREW IN SOUTHEAST GULF.

I do have Gulf-a noia... the fear of a storm getting into the gulf and going haywire. I have been watching waves this year and noticed that the 2 we can look at have blown up quite a bit on the their way to the coast. A well established storm over the Fla starits could be a real problem this year, even more so than others.

Another example is occuring before our eyes as the tropical wave in the southeast gulf is organizing and quite fast. but above the surface right now. The PSU look pis vivid with the banding features

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/SAT_SE/anim16vis.html

I want to make sure you understand why I am like this. Humberto for instance was a product of one system that split, the eastern side resulted in Gabrielle, the bottom part of the wave got into the area that Erin below up at the last minute. TPC fell asleep, and tried to play it off as rapid development, when in reality the pressure drop was 20 mb in some 20 hours.. respectable but nothing that hasnt happened before. The problem is they wrote the wave off and did not realize that it was approaching storm intensity at 3 am in the morning when we warned our clients. It was described, by one of my friends in the field as an almost mesoscale event. True enough but it came out of a trackable wave that hit its stride. This year is like that in the gulf... fortunately this will be onshore by late tomorrow night.. Unfortunately, if it gets down to the surface and really starts feeding back, it is embedded in high pressure so a 15-20 mb drop would lead to the same kind of excuse. I am on their case about this, because Humberto was predictable if one understood what was going on. I specifically posted that evening as to WHY the convection had fallen apart in the afternoon, a situations that happened in Bob in 1991 as a weak 150mb trough crossed over the storm and capped the upward motion, but once by, off it went.

While a powerful hurricane in this area moving nnw would weaken, a weak system can intensify since its well below the threshold of maximum intensity in the eastern gulf for a storm, which north of Tampa and east of 85 west, may be a cat 2 due to the rapid cooling of water with strong east winds off land, and entrainment of dry air with a strong hurricane paralleling the coast. However a small system can ramp up to a certain level.

The system is suffering now from competition from tstorms over land, but later tonight we may see a big comeback. The Key West radar is very interesting

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.php?product=N0R&rid=BYX&loop=yes

So folks between the se tip of La and the Fla coast east far east as Cedar Key should watch close here. While one may be going bananas over Ana, and getting a thrill over Bill, there si a chance by tomorrow night we may have to fret, if this feedback and is trying to become Claudette. Given long enough odds, make the bet ( it is a bold idea)..

Lets see if we get the hatched area to go to moderate.

In the end, it may be a tool to use if we get an established system in there.


Very interesting...Thanks!
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1361. stormwatcherCI 09:51 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:

LMAO, BTW stormwatcher I have a bad feeling about these 2 storms , I just don't see them going that far north especially at that forward speed.
I do too. Just a "gut" feeling we are gonna get a 1-2 punch. TKO
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1362. TampaMishy 09:52 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Wow I just got home from work and I'm looking at whats out there and now I see three systems!
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1363. Patrap 09:52 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
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1364. Halon056 09:52 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Did everybody notice the CMC is predicting something in the GOM in the next couple of weeks...
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1365. weatherblog 09:52 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting RitaEvac:
Bill may take a Gilbert path, and intensity. Jamaica, Yucatan wake up


Yes it can, 99% won't.
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1366. Halon056 09:53 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
sorry next couple of days....
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1367. TexasHurricane 09:53 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting Halon056:
Did everybody notice the CMC is predicting something in the GOM in the next couple of weeks...


Huh? Like what? Tropical?
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1368. kmanislander 09:53 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Not good for me, Stormpetrol,Kman,wunderkid etc if this pans out.


A lot can and likely will happen between now and when Ana gets near or into the Caribbean. If it continues sheared like it is then it will have less time to intensify and the Eastern Caribbean is not the most hospitable place for a weak system.

I am still not convinced that it is out of the woods from all the dry air and shear but time will tell on that score.

Here is a buoy that Ana is approaching and is now about 120 miles east of. Pressure there down to 1008 now.buoy
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1369. stormwatcherCI 09:53 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting RitaEvac:
Bill may take a Gilbert path, and intensity. Jamaica, Yucatan wake up
I wonder why people always forget about the Cayman Islands . Guess what, we are in between Jamaica and the Yucatan.
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1370. jipmg 09:53 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting Halon056:
Did everybody notice the CMC is predicting something in the GOM in the next couple of weeks...


long term models are inaccurate
1371. stormpetrol 09:54 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting weatherblog:


Me? I wasn't talking to you.

Well Taken, I could say the same thing regarding your comment, it wasn't meant for you also. Even now! Enough said, lighten up and enjoy the weather chat and be safe this season.
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1372. Halon056 09:54 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
yep, on the back of the CMC run
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1373. stormwatcherCI 09:54 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:


A lot can and likely will happen between now and when Ana gets near or into the Caribbean. If it continues sheared like it is then it will have less time to intensify and the Eastern Caribbean is not the most hospitable place for a weak system.

I am still not convinced that it is out of the woods from all the dry air and shear but time will tell on that score.

Here is a buoy that Ana is approaching and is now about 120 miles east of. pressure there down to 1008 now.buoy
Thanks for your learned opinion. Valued at all times.
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1374. StadiumEffect 09:54 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:

LMAO, BTW stormwatcher I have a bad feeling about these 2 storms , I just don't see them going that far north especially at that forward speed.


If you notice, the models (some time back) were calling for Ana to have gained latitude, enough so to have crossed 15 degrees by now. If you look you can see the center moving almost due west. The models will probably trend further south if the system continues this movement. Cayman is not out of the woods either because of this.
1375. atmoaggie 09:54 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
The following is a public service announce sponsored by AnaBill:

As we have a fair, and growing, number of visitors, and others that do not spend nearly as much time looking at the data as many of us, I am going to point out a few sources of links to models, satellite data, surface obs, etc.

http://www.stormjunkie.com/pages/trophome/trophome.php Thanks to our own StormJunkie
http://www.adriansweather.com/tropicalweatherlinks.htm Thanks to our own hurricane23
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/ WU tropical page has more links to good data than you might think!
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/atmoaggie/show.html Not that it really belongs with the rest of these, but they are my personal favs and in my blog they will stay.

If you found your way here, you can find your way to the WU tropical page or my blog. And you should be able to follow those links to most any data you might be seeking.

This has been a public service message. Feel free to remind anyone at anytime where they can get links to anything tropical.
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1376. RitaEvac 09:55 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting weatherblog:


Yes it can, 99% won't.


Checkmate
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1377. weatherblog 09:55 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Do you mean like Ike or Gustav did ? Sorry, I am being sarcastic.


Gustav and Ike were major hurricanes. Ana is just a weak tropical storm. Anyways, if Ana were to strengthen it would most likely take a northern path bringing it to Florida. So, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the GOM is safe from Ana (which is a good thing).
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1378. TightLines305 09:55 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Bill is starting to look like a sock puppet

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1379. 92Andrew 09:55 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting atmoaggie:
The following is a public service announce sponsored by AnaBill:

As we have a fair, and growing, number of visitors, and others that do not spend nearly as much time looking at the data as many of us, I am going to point out a few sources of links to models, satellite data, surface obs, etc.

http://www.stormjunkie.com/pages/trophome/trophome.php Thanks to our own StormJunkie
http://www.adriansweather.com/tropicalweatherlinks.htm Thanks to our own hurricane23
http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/ WU tropical page has more links to good data than you might think!
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/atmoaggie/show.html Not that it really belongs with the rest of these, but they are my personal favs and in my blog they will stay.

If you found your way here, you can find your way to the WU tropical page or my blog. And you should be able to follow those links to most any data you might be seeking.

This has been a public service message. Feel free to remind anyone at anytime where they can get links to anything tropical.


thanks !!
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1380. drg0dOwnCountry 09:56 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting aspectre:
1152 wunderkidcayman "did anyone found out that now TS ANA is moving faster than TS BILL"

Yep, been tracking their positions to see if the two would get close enough to begin watching for the mutual interaction which would pull TSAna south and TSBill north.
Instead they've gotten 0.37degrees farther apart to nearly 15degrees of separation.
And to cap it off, TSAna has a northerward component in its mostly westward movement, while TSBill has a southward component to its mostly westward movement.

* Less than 13degrees separation

Following the GFDN it might could appear similar to hurricane Dean.
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1381. SavannahStorm 09:56 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    


Another day closer to the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Hugo,
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1383. Patrap 09:57 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
T S BILL



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1385. Vortex1094 09:57 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
1386. Daveg 09:58 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
I'm a long time watcher (lurker) on this blog.

I just wanted to thank all of y'all for your great tropical explanations and insights. Keep it up!

Now...if someone could just wish-cast me a tropical system into Central Texas, I'd much appreciate it (massive, massive drought here).
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1387. islandblow 09:58 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Well every fresh model has Bill creeping a little further south. Bad news for the islands. We cannot get into a car and evacuate to 300 miles away as in the continental US. We have to sit and take it! Airports are closed early as regional airlines have to get their aircraft shifted south or north of the hurricane area.
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1388. antonio28 09:58 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Folks I almost ready,have bateries, flash light and water and food for a week. Just need to take down my TV dishes, but they hold Jeane wich was a 65 mph strom so I will wait if Anita gain force over night. And finger crosed with Bill that still the big thread for us here in PR.
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1389. weatherblog 09:59 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting jipmg:


I think the models expect ana to be a weaker system not gaining much strength from now until it reaches the islands.. which is why they but it on a West track


Yeah, that's why I think SFLA is not even close to being out of the woods. If Ana gains strength, it would take the northern part of the NHC's cone.
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1390. Halon056 09:59 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Check the end of the CMC run.....
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1391. all4hurricanes 09:59 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
I wonder why people always forget about the Cayman Islands . Guess what, we are in between Jamaica and the Yucatan.

Just last blog We proclaimed Cayman the Hurricane Capital of the World.
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1392. ironbark 09:59 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
i think galveston might see some action in the coming week.
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1394. Patrap 10:00 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
T S BILL 2km Storm Relative IR Imagery with BD Enhancement Curve

Time of Latest Image: 20090815 2045 UTC




2km Storm Relative IR Imagery with BD Enhancement Curve

The same infrared imagery shown in the earth relative framework is displayed in a storm relative framework, with a 2km resolution and enhanced with the "BD Curve" which is useful for directly inferring intensity via the Dvorak Enhanced IR (EIR) technique. Scaling is provided by two lightly hatched circles around the center. The two circles have radii of 1 and 2 degrees latitude, respectively
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1395. TexasHurricane 10:00 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
got a link for that?
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1396. weatherblog 10:01 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:

Well Taken, I could say the same thing regarding your comment, it wasn't meant for you also. Even now! Enough said, lighten up and enjoy the weather chat and be safe this season.


Oh ok, I wasn't sure if you were referring to me or the troll.
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1397. Halon056 10:01 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.cgi?time=2009081512&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=Animation
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1399. atmoaggie 10:02 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting TexasHurricane:
got a link for that?

Either you are being funny, kind of, or my real goal was not met.
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1400. Gumbogator 10:02 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Ana has a good outflow tail on the South and East side. Bill will continue to wind up and roll and churn into a large system.
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1401. SavannahStorm 10:02 PM GMT on Αύγουστος 15, 2009    
Quoting jasoniscoolman10:
THIS TROPICAL LOW IS SO BIG..WOW AND MORE WOW..THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD STORM..


WOW you must be so impressed by it your Caps Lock key got stuck.
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