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Tropical Storm Lee lingers off Louisiana coast
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 01:16 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011 +21
Tropical Storm Lee continues to bring heavy rain, moderately strong wind gusts, and tornado risk to the Gulf Coast states east of Texas. Lee is 55 miles south of Lafayette, Louisiana, and is drifting almost due north at 4 mph. Lee's central pressure dropped to 988 mb since this morning, but has maximum sustained wind speeds that have decreased to 50mph. The National Hurricane Center has extended the tropical storm warning eastward to Destin, Florida. Since this morning, New Orleans Lakefront Airport has received about another inch of rain for a storm total of 6.87 inches. Rainfall estimates from radar suggest some locations, especially close to the coast, might have already seen up to 8 inches of rain from Tropical Storm Lee. Although the New Orleans area is in a dry slot of the storm, more rain can be expected through the night in the form of isolated storms with heavy downpours. Louisiana's Jefferson Parish officials ordered a mandatory evacuation for three towns earlier today: Lafitte, Crown Point, and Barataria. Heavy rain and tidal surge pushed the water of Bayou Barataria into the surrounding low-lying areas, and officials warned that if residents didn't leave, they might become stranded for a couple of days.


Figure 1. Infrared satellite of Tropical Storm Lee captured around 6pm EDT. Source: NOAA.

Forecast for Tropical Storm Lee
Lee's forecast hasn't changed much since this morning. Dry air is being pulled in from the west, which is giving the storm a very subtropical appearance, and is mitigating intensification. Earlier today, two centers of circulation were visible in satellite and confirmed by Hurricane Hunters. The centers were rotating around each other in full Fujiwara fashion, and although they were scientifically interesting, it meant that there was no clear center of circulation, and probably helped to weaken storm. The National Hurricane Center expects that Lee will come ashore in Louisiana later this evening and linger over the region until Monday, when it will finally be pushed north by a mid-latitude wave.

Lee's tornado threat
A tornado watch is in effect for southern Louisiana and portions of Mississippi, Alabama, and the western Florida Panhandle until 10pm CDT. The forecast is for small and short-lived tornadoes, but the threat for tornado damage is still there. A PhD student at Georgia Tech (and my former group member), James Belanger, runs a skillful model to predict the number of tornadoes that a tropical cyclone could produce. The model uses variables such as the size of the storm, the maximum wind speed, and moisture. For the 2008 hurricane season, the model accurately predicted the number of tornadoes that would be spawned from a quite a few tropical cyclones, including Hurricane Dolly, Tropical Storm Edouard, Tropical Storm Fay, and Hurricane Ike. Given today's forecast track and intensity, Belanger's model is forecasting 30-40 tornadoes could be spawned from Tropical Storm Lee, mainly in the Southeast states east of and including Louisiana.

Interestingly, although the nose of dry air that's being pulled in from drought-stricken Texas (visible in the satellite image above) is acting to keep the storm weak, it's also playing a role in the number of tornadoes that could be spawned from Lee. The dry air is a crucial component for the storm to develop discrete, isolated thunderstorm cells (versus a large shield of heavy rain). The discrete cells, just like during severe weather season, are the storms that are most capable of producing a tornado.

Angela
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751. wolftribe2009 05:21 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
I have been noticing a lot more banding with the thunderstorms on the eastern side of Lee since 11 PM. I believe the strength of the thunderstorms have gotten stronger as the tops have cooled bringing out the deeper "red: tops on radar. This is probably why the tornado warnings were up fro Mobile. This is the same area with one of the nice looking bands.

I also have wondered why NOAA continues to say the storm is moving NNW or N when (Unless that is the ULL) the storm has gone NW and then W and now looks more SW. Back over water.
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752. Orcasystems 05:22 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Beachfoxx:
Just enough tom ruin my Labor Daybweekend plans... *sigh*


Ok, I must admit.. I might have snickered once or twice watching the bands of rain going over your house.. and thinking of you in flip flops on the beach :)
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753. blowedhardputupwet 05:22 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting totalamature:


There is the old term to "blow" Out your race horse. (Give Him a Good run) Old guys used to say "blown hard & put up wet" too. It meant you didnt cool him out & rub him down before you stabled him & he might be sored up tommarow. The word blowed was also used in place of blown depending on accents & ethnic background. As far as it being dirty, I guess if you're thinking that way.....

THANK YOU!
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754. OracleDeAtlantis 05:22 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Maria Wikiname

Meaning: Sea of bitterness, rebelliousness, wished for child
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755. Patrap 05:23 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Lake Charles Radar

NEXRAD Radar

Base Reflectivity 0.50° Elevation

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756. HoustonTxGal 05:23 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting weatherganny:
From Channel 12 News Beaumont Texas....

Lee Still hasn't made landfall...
Tropical Storm Lee still hasn't made landfall and continues meandering just off the Louisiana Coast this Saturday Evening. The storm is located about 65 miles south-southwest of Lafayette near Latitude 29.4N...Longitude 92.6W. Lee is inching north-northwest at 2 mph. Maximum sustained winds are at 50mph.

Locally, Southeast Texas has received about 1 to 2 inches of rainfall today with wind gusts to 36 mph.

Lee is forecasted to make a landfall late tonight and then move across Southern Louisiana Sunday and Sunday Night.

Several rigs off the Louisiana Coast are indicating wind speeds of 40 to 50 mph.

Posted: Sep 03, 2011 10:39 PM CDT


Lee is still trying to make landfall??
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757. redwagon 05:23 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting weatherganny:
From Channel 12 News Beaumont Texas....

Lee Still hasn't made landfall...
Tropical Storm Lee still hasn't made landfall and continues meandering just off the Louisiana Coast this Saturday Evening. The storm is located about 65 miles south-southwest of Lafayette near Latitude 29.4N...Longitude 92.6W. Lee is inching north-northwest at 2 mph. Maximum sustained winds are at 50mph.

Locally, Southeast Texas has received about 1 to 2 inches of rainfall today with wind gusts to 36 mph.

Lee is forecasted to make a landfall late tonight and then move across Southern Louisiana Sunday and Sunday Night.

Several rigs off the Louisiana Coast are indicating wind speeds of 40 to 50 mph.

Posted: Sep 03, 2011 10:39 PM CDT
Looks like the center is on the Sabine?
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758. SomeRandomTexan 05:23 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
This is gonna get ugly toward the wee Hours and Dawn,




I think it may get wrapped tonight, wbu?
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759. Some1Has2BtheRookie 05:23 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Latest Frame shows a Convective Pulse Blooming



Lee is starting to get to be a big boy now. I am just glad he is not 300 miles further south.
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760. HoustonTxGal 05:24 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting blowedhardputupwet:

THANK YOU!


We got yer back :o)
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761. weatherganny 05:24 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting redwagon:
Looks like the center is on the Sabine?



Just about...at least we are getting rain...
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762. ktymisty 05:25 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting ABlass:
[QUOTE=Grothar]I just miss the days when you picked up the phone and heard "Number plee-uz![/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, I was one of those voices :)
Awww ... the good ol'days


True story
Ages ago we lived on a farm with a local exchange and party lines. We had the same exchange lady for years! ( 3 shorts and a long was our house :)

Fast forward about 15 years, no more exchanges but overseas calls still went through an operator.
My dad was overseas and decided to call home. He got through to the Australian exchange and a lady said "what number please?"

He gave the number and then the lady said..." Oh, is that you Mr ****, I haven't heard your voice for years!" and the conversation went on...hehehe

Amazing that she recognised his voice so many years later :) it was cool growing up then
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763. SomeRandomTexan 05:25 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting redwagon:
Looks like the center is on the Sabine?


Center is on the beach near Pecan Island
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764. mamabeth 05:26 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Johnhopefan:


That's Nate, that's AFTER Maria, check the full run to see what Maria does.





Link, please?
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765. PrivateIdaho 05:26 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Inferred, but not explicitly stated. A horse rode hard will sweat profuseley. A good horseman will currycomb a wet horse to dry and massage it's skin to help it recover. If it is "put up wet" the risk of the horse getting chilled and becoming ill is increased.

Back in the day. Not taking care of your horse was like not changing the oil in your car.
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766. HoustonTxGal 05:26 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting weatherganny:



Just about...at least we are getting rain...


I want more rain.. I had a dab, which is more than I have had in 4 months, and I hate to be greedy, but I need more darn it!
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767. txjac 05:26 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting weatherganny:



Just about...at least we are getting rain...



Rain hasnt made it this far ...
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768. katadman 05:27 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Looking at the WU radar doesn't show that obvious southerly direction like this one.
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769. Patrap 05:28 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Man,,a Tropical Downpour with 3-inch hr rates fell last cell here Uptown..sheesh

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770. redwagon 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting SomeRandomTexan:


Center is on the beach near Pecan Island

Holy smokes, there ARE two COCs.

If I can just figure out a way to post this still I have on googleearth.
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771. weatherganny 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:


Lee is still trying to make landfall??



apparently??? I really am confused ...LOL Cant imagine what it must be like in New Orleans and surrounding areas and I hope this storm does not get any stronger on land...surely it cant. I do not want any TORNADOS, But I think I am far enough away that we dont have to worry.
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772. brazocane 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Dry air is killing Lee...now it looks like he is feeling the influence of the front coming down and has stopped his westward movement and either has stalled or creeping back to the East...All the convection isolated to the southwest

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773. tennisgirl08 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Lee is starting to get to be a big boy now. I am just glad he is not 300 miles further south.


Lee wants to wrap around the core...but too much dry air...what's this about a move to the south??
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774. Some1Has2BtheRookie 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
My pillow is staring at me. I had better go see what it wants.

Good night all! May your weather be what you need it to be.
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775. PrivateIdaho 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Man,,a Tropical Downpour with 3-inch hr rates fell last cell here Uptown..sheesh


The pumps are doing a good job so far....right?
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776. owntime 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:


I want more rain.. I had a dab, which is more than I have had in 4 months, and I hate to be greedy, but I need more darn it!


I got 1/4" in Dayton so far but it looks like it is about over here for now. I wish Lee would inch over 20 more miles.
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777. centex 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Moving NNW?

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778. blowedhardputupwet 05:29 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:


We got yer back :o)

Thanks again HTG. I'm not trying to cause any more trouble than I naturally do.
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779. LAlurker 05:30 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:


Lee is still trying to make landfall??

Not trying very hard.
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780. Patrap 05:30 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    


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781. weatherganny 05:31 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting txjac:



Rain hasnt made it this far ...


Where are you? I am in South east Texas, and It has been raining all day in The Golden triangle and as far North as Newton and jasper Counties with wind gusts. i hope you get some rain.
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782. SomeRandomTexan 05:31 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
I really do not think it is moving south. It appears that way on radar due to the banding around the COC. jmho.
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783. Beachfoxx 05:31 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Shame on you! We may have grey skies but thud far Lee has not produced he rainfall or winds predicted for our area. We have had high surf & inspect to find beach erosion. Course se are expecting more rainfall tonight.

Had to swap my flip flops for galoshes this weekend. But you can bet that the flip flips will be back on feet by mid-week!
Quoting Orcasystems:


Ok, I must admit.. I might have snickered once or twice watching the bands of rain going over your house.. and thinking of you in flip flops on the beach :)
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784. Patrap 05:31 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
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785. tiggeriffic 05:31 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting ABlass:
[QUOTE=Grothar]I just miss the days when you picked up the phone and heard "Number plee-uz![/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, I was one of those voices :)
Awww ... the good ol'days


and the days when a phone number didn't have 7 numbers, there were party lines (and everyone who did have a phone really did know everyone's business), etc, etc, etc....i remember em too
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786. Some1Has2BtheRookie 05:32 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting tennisgirl08:


Lee wants to wrap around the core...but too much dry air...what's this about a move to the south??


No, not a move to the south. I am just glad that it is not 300 miles south of its present location. As big as it is getting, that would not be good.
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787. OracleDeAtlantis 05:32 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting SomeRandomTexan:
take a look at radar...

best Lee's core has looked, even with the dry air, lol

That isn't saying much though.
Texas has cursed Lee, and Lee is cursing Texas.
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788. Patrap 05:32 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
The Right Semi Circle iz Catching its Breath and the rotating cells are numerous and increasing inbound
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789. totalamature 05:33 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:


They're coming to take me away ha ha, to the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time


I'm Henery the Eighth, I am,
Henery the Eighth I am, I am!
I got married to the widow next door,
She'd been married seven times before.
And every one was an Henery
It wouldn't be a Willie or a Sam
I'm her eighth old man named Henery
Henery the Eighth, I am!

AAAHHH. Thank you, I think I can even hear the british accent on that one:)
How about
Winchester Cathederall
Your gettin me down
You stood & you watched her
My baby left town:)
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790. Seawall 05:33 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service Lake Charles la
1158 PM CDT Sat Sep 3 2011


Aviation...MVFR ceilings and visible in moisture wraparound from the
northerly winds into the circulation of ts Lee. Used NAM motion
for evolution of this system which takes a weakening Lee southwest
into the Gulf. Precipitation with MVFR ceiling/visible should be the predominant
condition and this is reflected in this taf package through Sunday evening.


Sweeney


&&



Link
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791. BaltimoreBrian 05:33 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Pressure at Fresh Water Canal Locks sensor has tied its reading for the lowest surface pressure recorded in Lee's lifetime. 987.0 mb.
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792. Patrap 05:34 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
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793. LAlurker 05:34 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Man,,a Tropical Downpour with 3-inch hr rates fell last cell here Uptown..sheesh


Relax - Dr. M said the rain event was over on Sat AM.
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794. KatywasnoLady05 05:34 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Models called for a stall at landfall. Don't know why we are surprised. Heavy rain, big winds and strong gusts here in Biloxi. Guess this is what I expected.
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795. txjac 05:34 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting weatherganny:


Where are you? I am in South east Texas, and It has been raining all day in The Golden triangle and as far North as Newton and jasper Counties with wind gusts. i hope you get some rain.


West side of Houston ...it sprinkled here and has been windy but thats about it. Although the cooler temps are awesome
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796. Patrap 05:34 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
Pressure at Fresh Water Canal Locks sensor has tied its reading for the lowest surface pressure recorded in Lee's lifetime. 987.0 mb.


That trend you've shown is down again..

Lee is feeling its Mojo tonight.
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797. blowedhardputupwet 05:34 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting PrivateIdaho:
Inferred, but not explicitly stated. A horse rode hard will sweat profuseley. A good horseman will currycomb a wet horse to dry and massage it's skin to help it recover. If it is "put up wet" the risk of the horse getting chilled and becoming ill is increased.

Back in the day. Not taking care of your horse was like not changing the oil in your car.

And that is only in case of extreme emergency. Kind of like the after effects of a hurricane...
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798. SomeRandomTexan 05:35 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
If you use the following link you can get up close and personal with Lee. It is an interactive radar and you can almost pick out the exact location of the COC.

It is not moving SW it is sitting stationary on the coast near pecan island. Possible that it has moved 5 miles West or so but that is it.
Link
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799. katadman 05:35 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Link

For my fellow Texans by a fellow Texan.

Come on, Lee, head west!!
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800. MiamiHurricanes09 05:37 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
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801. BEENE 05:37 AM GMT on Σεπτέμβριος 04, 2011    
Quoting katadman:
Link

For my fellow Texans by a fellow Texan.

Come on, Lee, head west!!


Head west my son!
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